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[jora]

Hello,

I've heard HD3650 has many versions. Could you post the clear pic of the card you bought, front and back?
Thanks!!

I let you see my 3650. You may see the number "-12"

I was wondering if anyone has come across the VBios dump of the Acer Aspire 5530G-822G32Bi/X002.

According to the link below:
Acer Aspire 5530G
This certain model of the Acer Aspire has the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, and I'm looking at getting this for my Acer Aspire 4520G:
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650

I know it will work on my laptop with the proper VBios, as I have already inquired with the store owner.

I am choosing between the ATI HD 3650 and the nVidia 8600M GT, but the ranking of the 8600M GT is a bit below the HD 3650. Also the HD 3650 uses up less power and generates less heat, not to mention that it is cheaper.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[facey]

Ok folks hope the acer bios I gave is working fine, need a favour back if possible. Could you please upload a copy of your original vbios or send me a copy jaseyfacey at yahoo.com

Cheers

[nassevis]

will 3650 fit Acer 5920?

[B3ttWuR5tNapAlm]

HI,

i have a Toshiba A300 1C9 (T9300;4GB ram;Mobility Radeon HD3650;640GB;.... )
and i have a 3Dmark06 score 3974! how can i make tis better ?
on my desktop i don't have any problem with oc etc, but i'am stuck with this card nothing work

Grtz

If you want to change your hd 3650 with a X1800 i would do...
I search for one hd3650 that works with a amilo......

or can you upload your videobios... maybe it would help
Where do you come from guest?

[Kayldera]

Hi all,

I have an ACER ASPIRE 7520G and I recently bought an ATI 3650 radeon mobility card to upgrade the standard Nvidia 8400m Geforce.

The problem I have is that I can get no picture in 3D mode.
The card is proparly installed, does not get too hot (in fact the laptop runs cooler now as was the case with the 8400m).
I was able to install modded catalist drivers (8.10) and they allow me to get desktop and video image in both XP and Vista.
So, I play movies, browse the net, use standard 2D programs. But the moment I try to run anything that requieres 3D it's all problems. Before the game or 3D application (like 3D benchmark) starts up, the screen eiter locks up, or it gets some of these strange green colored tearings, or it turns black (also after getting those green colored tearings) and then there is sound (world of warcraft for example) but no image.
What also happens when i close the laptops cover and the lcd screens turns off, is that I get a completely frozen screen with a striped colered background). When I open the screen again (and am looking at the strangely colored and frozen screen) and press CTRL ALT DEL, I get the welcome screen perfectly displayed and then I can switch back to my desktop screen. This effect sometimes (not always) happens when I open something in my browser (like a link) or start up a video via Windows movie player.

I've tried installing a number of different driver versions (modded ones), omega drivers (they don't recognize the card and I think that's because their catalyst driver version is from pre 3650 period and as such it has no support for this card yet) and drivers from other Acer laptops that have this ATI card build in. But none gave me a solution.

What is strange though is that I've succeeded ONCE in getting world of warcraft to display (with the modded 8.10 catalyst driver). It started up withouth the green colored tearings but the perfomance in the game was the same as with my geforce 8400m G (frame rates ranging from 11 to 30 fps). I find that odd because this 3650 card should be quite a bit faster and give me an average fps of around 30-45-60.

I've bought this card via ebay from the same seller (osstore) as mentionend in this topic. It's virtually the same card as given in the examples here.

Can anyone please help me here cose I'm really stuck and the seller has told me that I should switch my bios (video or motherboard??) from Nvidia to ATI. He told me that I should get it at Acer but I've called them (and searched their sites: european and pan american) for days but didn't find a single bit of info on it. On the phone they informed me that there are no bios's available for the video cards.

If you need any further info please post or mail me at dirk500@hotmail.com and I'll supply you with it.

Thanks very much for any help to get this card working.

Kind regards,
Magneto7777

I got my card from him too, the vbios is kinda skewed... Create a bootable flash drive and copy the content of the archive at the root of the flash drive and boot from it.
Then type:
atiflash.exe -f -p 0 bios.rom -scansii

It fixed the problem on mine. I made a OCed (3d mode: 700/800) vbios that I can upload too if anyone is interested.

Attached Files

•  hd3650.rar   182.41K   1587 downloads

Edited by Kayldera, 08 November 2008 - 05:26 AM.

[Magneto7777]

I got my card from him too, the vbios is kinda skewed... Create a bootable flash drive and copy the content of the archive at the root of the flash drive and boot from it.
Then type:
atiflash.exe -f -p 0 bios.rom -scansii

It fixed the problem on mine. I made a OCed (3d mode: 700/800) vbios that I can upload too if anyone is interested.

Ok Kayldera, many thanks for this quick responce. I'm going to try it now and let you know how it went. Hopefully nothing goes wrong and I'm still able to get my lap booted up :-)

[Magneto7777]

I got my card from him too, the vbios is kinda skewed... Create a bootable flash drive and copy the content of the archive at the root of the flash drive and boot from it.
Then type:
atiflash.exe -f -p 0 bios.rom -scansii

It fixed the problem on mine. I made a OCed (3d mode: 700/800) vbios that I can upload too if anyone is interested.

Ok Kayldera, It worked like a charm! Card is now displaying 3D without a problem and in WoW I get very decent framerates with everything maxed out (res at 1400*900). Heat output is still lower than with the stock 8400m G (that gave far worse performance).
Just a question about the Vbios number beeing displayed when the system is booting. It's a garbled number (A letter 'v', then a couple of spaces and then a sort of upside down triangle and an arrow pointing to the right). Is this just a cosmetic thing or does it mean something more important is going on? I've had this number displayed like that (garbled) with the previous bios and also after the succesful flash.
With my old 8400m G the number was properly displayed.
Thx for the info and 1000* BIG THANK YOU for getting me this sort of speedy and to the point help!

You also wrote that you have and oc'd version of the bios for upload. I would like to try in out sometime after I've tested the performance of the current settings in some other 3D games (like c&c3, doom3, War3 and some benchmarkers).

Many thanks again to you and this forum:-D
Magneto7777

[Kayldera]

Ok Kayldera, It worked like a charm! Card is now displaying 3D without a problem and in WoW I get very decent framerates with everything maxed out (res at 1400*900). Heat output is still lower than with the stock 8400m G (that gave far worse performance).
Just a question about the Vbios number beeing displayed when the system is booting. It's a garbled number (A letter 'v', then a couple of spaces and then a sort of upside down triangle and an arrow pointing to the right). Is this just a cosmetic thing or does it mean something more important is going on? I've had this number displayed like that (garbled) with the previous bios and also after the succesful flash.
With my old 8400m G the number was properly displayed.
Thx for the info and 1000* BIG THANK YOU for getting me this sort of speedy and to the point help!

You also wrote that you have and oc'd version of the bios for upload. I would like to try in out sometime after I've tested the performance of the current settings in some other 3D games (like c&c3, doom3, War3 and some benchmarkers).

Many thanks again to you and this forum:-D
Magneto7777

You're welcome. If you really want to try the oveclocked vbios get amd gpu clock tool and test how your card behave at 700core/800mem speed and check your temps too. If you like what you see, you shouldn't have any problem with using the modded vbios .

Attached Files

•  custom.rar   38.86K   704 downloads

[nassevis]

I got my card from him too, the vbios is kinda skewed... Create a bootable flash drive and copy the content of the archive at the root of the flash drive and boot from it.
Then type:
atiflash.exe -f -p 0 bios.rom -scansii

It fixed the problem on mine. I made a OCed (3d mode: 700/800) vbios that I can upload too if anyone is interested.

the vbios works perfect on my acer aspire 5720.

always use the .bin when making a new bios.

[ZeroXtreme]

Hi guys,

Could those who have successfully replaced their video cards with the HD3650 please post images of your GPU-Z results.

The program can be downloaded from here:
GPU-Z Download

I just want to see the variance between the different models if ever you guys got different ones.

Thanks.

[Kayldera]

[ZeroXtreme]

Thanks for the info.

[nassevis]

i had to underclock and undervolt the core because my fan is not working properly.

[ZeroXtreme]

I got my card from him too, the vbios is kinda skewed... Create a bootable flash drive and copy the content of the archive at the root of the flash drive and boot from it.
Then type:
atiflash.exe -f -p 0 bios.rom -scansii

It fixed the problem on mine. I made a OCed (3d mode: 700/800) vbios that I can upload too if anyone is interested.

Ok, I finally got my HD3650 today, hehe funny it took me that long and you guys actually got it ahead of me.

Anyway, same problem, clocks were skewed and it wouldnt run winsat properly or any 3d apps, so i flashed with the BIOS you posted, now there is a new HD Audio Device, and there are artifacts on my screen even upon boot up, also it still will not run 3D apps, any ideas?

[ZeroXtreme]

@zeroxtreme

The new audiodevice you're seeing is actually an High Definition Audio Device attached to your ATI graphics card. It supposedly functions (relays sound i suppose?) when you attach an HDTV device (like a HD television) to the (if you have one) HDMI output of your laptop.

There is a driver for this apparatus available at (copy and paste the following link in your browser's address bar): http://www.realtek.c...p;GetDown=false

You'll be forwarded to a page on the Realtek homepage. It's possible that you must first mark the 'I accept to the above' notification and then click the 'next' button. The screen refreshes and the 'next' button will appear again, so click it once more.
Now you'll be given the page with the actual downloads. Here look for the (in red writing) file named 'ATI HDMI Audio Device' and download it.
After downloading install it and restart the pc.

Have fun ;-)
Magneto7777

PS: I would have uploaded the file in this post but I have no clue as how to add it (anyone care to explain it to me :-)

So thats what that ATI HDMI Driver is for, thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.

[ZeroXtreme]

Ok, anyone experience this on their Acer Aspire 4520G when an ATI HD3650 256MB/DDR3 is installed:

Upon first installation, problems are exactly like that of Magneto7777 posted above, but he apparently was able to fix it by flashing the Acer VBIOS posted by Kayldera.

Unfortunately this did not fix my problem, but made it worse, with the Acer VBIOS my 4520G now has artifacts popping in and out all over the screen even upon boot-up. The same thing still happens when running 3D applications, Like Magneto7777's initial problem.

I dont think its heating up, I mean its within acceptable levels, could it be lack of power supplied to the card by the laptop upon heavy 3D requirements?

I have been playing around with the BIOS using RBE, trying to compare the differences between the VBIOSes posted here. I have tried lowering the voltages and setting the core/mem clock speeds lower too, but still unsuccessful. Sometimes the display would blackout after a flash, so i would blind-flash the original BIOS back, and I'm right back at square one.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit and I have tried the Acer WHQL drivers, also the latest 8.10 Catalyst modded with Mobility.Modder.NET, still the same results.

So I figured it could be that I got a bum video card, or my laptop is not supplying the card with enough power. I noticed that the HD3650s are usually on either 15.4" and above laptops, and mostly with Intel chipsets and Intel CPUs, another thing I just thought of, could it be caused by incompatibilities with the hardware?

This is getting very frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Edited by ZeroXtreme, 13 November 2008 - 02:28 PM.