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Posted 20 March 2009 - 08:25 AM

the problem is not the mxm 2.0 cos the same is the ati mobility 3650 gddr3 (mxm 2.0) and works perfectly without any start up issue.

the problem is in database of the amilo bios that not support some string code that are in nvidia 9600m gs/gt bios at the moment of the start up, when the amilo/AW bios is going to question this code to nvidia 9600M bios.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 10:04 AM

thats not 100% accurate. I had the 3650 gddr3 and had a start up issue. It was like the card needed to heat up for a short time then after powering off and on again it would start

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 02:36 PM

i have the ati 3650 gddr3 on amilo 1546 intel c2d t7400 2gb ram bios 1.25, i have't any problem with my card at start up.

on my ati 3650 i have this vbios HP_Wistron_Vox_M86M_10.88.28604_FGL.rom

look this http://forums.laptop...showtopic=22215

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 04:19 AM

I found error string (ERROR: MXM Structure not found or invalid. Reflash MXM ROM or add MXM Structure and associated callbacks to SBIOS! POST will be halted for 30 seconds and performance will be limited to balanced performance mode until this is resolved...) in vBIOS dump. I will disassembl this code, and the counter decrement to 1. or 0.

Edited by shark300, 21 March 2009 - 05:13 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2009 - 04:47 AM

Wow awesome job!

You should post a tutorial to get this thing works for every 9600m user.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 07:51 AM

@shark300
you want to say that you don't have anymore the 30sec issue wait...???

give to us more info. abaut this magic thing. :)

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 08:08 AM

Maybe.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 03:11 PM

Hey, i got the Amilo M3438G running with a 9600gt and i got this 30sec. delay, too.

I don't understand what u have done, so can you explain it again(i'm german)

Thx Donlucas

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 05:28 PM

@shark300 you are on the right track i think, the phoenix bios is problematic as it seems to be uneditable with any Bios editor out yet
if you just kill the timeloop out of the aw and fsc bios that would be neat! otherwise we have to wait for an new bios editor to leak out.

PM me and i provide you with the bios or whatever help i can give out.
You already unpacked it? WinImage? it's not that hard to get hands on it but editing won't be easy. Finally one who knows disassemble bios code :)

Edited by Meins321, 22 March 2009 - 05:34 AM.


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Posted 22 March 2009 - 07:05 AM

@Meins321:
I made a little modded vBIOS. I flashed a new bios on my videocard yesterday, but the notebook didn't boots. I reflashed it with original vBIOS, and notebook is working, but this has startup delay. :)
I'm working on the problem.

MOD:
New idea, new version of vBIOS, but my pendrive is broken. I'll flash tomorrow (today :) )

Edited by shark300, 22 March 2009 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2009 - 06:34 PM

Yeah, we can easily find the error string in the disassembled bios, event with the Hex view of Nibitor, the trick then is to find where the countdown loop is located to modify it, which I couldn't figure out due to my lack of knowledge in assembly language. Still, this is a partial fix just to trick the countdown, it wouldn't fix the card being used in PCI-x x1 instead of x16 (I guess), and the full support of the card by the bios.

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:51 AM

it wouldn't fix the card being used in PCI-x x1 instead of x16 (I guess), and the full support of the card by the bios.

This card can use PCI-e x16, but can't use PowerMizer 2, 3 level. I hope, this problem is resolved in future.

Edited by shark300, 23 March 2009 - 06:02 AM.


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Posted 23 March 2009 - 08:19 AM

i thought that the error comes from the Laptop bios? not from vbios in mxm, as the mxm table is stored in the vbios but the error code from halted boot comes from the laptop Bios because it can't access the mxm table wich is now different from that old gpu vbios?

If youre right then this is just the wrong forum and maybe someone can help us elsewhere.

Maybe it helps but i don't know for sure:
I've downloaded IDA Pro Free
open ida.cfg file in the IDA Pro installation folder with text editor , then delete the default processor for *.rom file.
then open vbios -> chose processor: metapc -> "NO" only 16 bit disassemble -> here you go should be asm code next to an hex editor

btw, what did you use as thermal interface material? any good heatpads around? or copper and as5

[EDIT] ok deleting the text isn't that hard as you can do it with any HEX editor but then the crc check fails and you have to force the flashing, i will look into that too but i think it's hard to accomplish for me as i can read any asm

[EDIT2]@shark300 does that mean you only have 30s countdown? no beep beep and so on? as i find only the beep annoying and i would wait for a good GPU 30 Sec ,-P

Edited by Meins321, 23 March 2009 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2009 - 12:08 PM

Maybe it helps but i don't know for sure:

I use IDA, too. I can disable to write error code, but I have delay yet.

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 03:19 PM

[EDIT2]@shark300 does that mean you only have 30s countdown? no beep beep and so on? as i find only the beep annoying and i would wait for a good GPU 30 Sec ,-P

hey, i don't have the beeps at startup, but i think it has something to do with my soundcard, because if you take headphones you may hear it. Same thing when installing windows: you just can hear the sound by the audio output until you install the realtek driver.

greetz Donlucas

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 03:26 PM

No beep, just waiting.
I didn't delete error text, I disabled. :)

Edited by shark300, 23 March 2009 - 03:28 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:56 PM

This card can use PCI-e x16, but can't use PowerMizer 2, 3 level. I hope, this problem is resolved in future.


When looking into GPU-Z, the software says I'm in PCI-X x1, and I've seen the same for other people. Can you check with yours? Or maybe GPU-Z is wrong...?

About the beep, I just have to plug headphones in the line out to shut them down.

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 05:43 PM

When looking into GPU-Z, the software says I'm in PCI-X x1, and I've seen the same for other people. Can you check with yours? Or maybe GPU-Z is wrong...?

Everest, GPU-Z say for me, I use my card in PCI-e x1 mode, but 3DMark, and RivaTuner say x16... :)

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 08:17 PM

I think we can safely say that GPU-Z is misreading the card when it's not on a 4 Series chipset (Centrino 2) - NightWalker's Asus C90S showed the 9600M GT he upgraded to running at 1x without any negative impact on benchmarks, and ditto for justinwalker's upgraded Acer Aspire 6920G over on NotebookReview.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 05:29 AM

that means apart from 30sec wait with an error text displaying were done?
and i think that GPU-Z is misleading because when the x1900m came to light as an upgrade, i thought that it was crippled because of GPU-Z
and mailed some details to wizzard on techpowerup.com; with the next update it showed the correct values, apart from that i was next to the benches on notebookcheck.net

@shark300, thank you for that does that mean that you can disable the error entry point but not the 30sec countdown in vbios? that's nice!