LSudlow Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 65.73 and 65.90 are very similar drivers, with none of the problems we've seen in previous 65.xx and 66.xx drivers. Benchmark scores are good and very consistent. 66.00, on the other hand, has some odd exceptions: - 3DMark01 never completes. After running all tests, instead of displaying a result, it just loops back to the first test and runs again ...and again ...and again. So no 3DMark01 result this time around. - We've had at least one machine report a driver failure on installation, though it seemed to work okay after a reboot. - We've had at least one report of Warcraft features not working with 66.00. Morrowind's interior lighting, which was mishandled by 65.62, works fine with all three of these drivers, which have reverted to the traditional 5x.xx/6x.xx architecture. It appears nVidia has abandonded (at least for now) some of the more radical changes we saw in 65.62. NOTE: In all three of these drivers, if you want to apply external color settings to games (including digital vibrance, brightness, contrast, and gamma), you need to create or modify an Application Profile on the Performance and Quality page of the nVidia Control Panel. 65.xx and later drivers are fully compatible with both SP2 and DX9c, so if that's your need, give 65.73 or 65.90 a try. 66.00 needs a bit more time to mellow. Driver..........3DMark01..............3DMark03 53.03............6963.....................1335 53.04............6965.....................1332 53.06............6976.....................1333 53.30............6940.....................1335 53.81............6943.....................1337 54.01............6833.....................1307 56.55............6744.....................1306 56.56............6731.....................1304 56.64............6661.....................1277 56.72............6822.....................1308 56.82............6591.....................1271 58.21............6803.....................1308 60.60............6536.....................1190 60.72............6826.....................1253 60.80............6484.....................1186 61.11............6446.....................1186 61.12............6639.....................1215 61.21............6620.....................1213 61.40............6697.....................1269 61.80............6702.....................1271 62.01............6896.....................1308 62.11............6897.....................1308 62.20............6890.....................1307 65.62............6776.....................1301 65.73............6806.....................1307 65.90............6806.....................1308 66.00............****.....................1309 NOTE: I use a home-grown inf, which can be found here. Pieter's version may perform quite differently. Machine: Dell Inspirion 5150 BIOS: A35 CPU: 3.06 GHz Pentium 4M (Non HyperThreading) RAM: 512MB GPU: Nvidia FX Go5200 w/ 64MB RAM OS: XP Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSudlow Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Note that I've changed the above review to reflect some of the problems we've heard about with 66.00. I now give it a cautious recommendation and no longer recommend it for all users. The problems we've heard about aren't killers, but are serious enough to give headaches to users who need a stable, solid driver. Thanks. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tentonine Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 This is the first driver that I have come across not to work on my computer (Inspiron 8200 with Quadro4 700 GoGl, Precision M50 A13 BIOS and Samsung SXGA+ screen). It sets itself to 1600x1200 and, if I change it to 1400x1050, the lower part of the screen and right hand part of the screen are missing. There are black borders to the top and left of the screen, as if it is centred to the right of where it is supposed to be (with the centre where the centre of the 1600x1200 display would be). I normally use my own .inf files, but in this case I also tried the one from this site. Neither work, even though I tried changing various settings in the .inf. I have gone back to 65.62 for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSudlow Posted August 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I've updated the benchmark results to include the newest WHQL driver, 65.73. It looks like a good driver, with none of the problems I've seen in previous 65.xx and 66.xx drivers. Benchmarks are pretty good, too. The 65 and later drivers are supposed to be fully compatible with both SP2 and DX9c, so if that's your need, 65.73 looks like a good version to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSudlow Posted September 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 ...and I've now added 65.90 to the results at the top of this thread. It's an excellent driver, but not significantly different from 65.73. If 65.73 is working fine for you, there's no point in upgrading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamika007z Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I was running 65.73's and now the 65.90 and I agree that they both are top notch drivers :) John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilenvidia Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 John the first thing you should have noticed is the lack of Digital Vibrance in games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamika007z Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I just noticed it right now :) You beat me to it! Do they break common things like this on purpose or something? haha John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tentonine Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Over-clocking does not work on 65.90 for me (Quadro4 700 and Inspiron 8200). I have used both my own .inf and the laptopvideo2go one. I can put the settings in and click test but, if I click OK and go back later, the settings have gone back to defaults. This is also reflected in Benchmark scores - they are what I would expect with no over-clocking. However, 65.73 is fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamika007z Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 tentonine, What speeds do you clock your Quadro4 700 GoGL to? Also, doesn't that make the already-hot video card even hotter? You don't get any artifcats from it as well? Thanks, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tentonine Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I started running it at 214/500, but I had the odd flicker on the screen every now and again (a sort of blue flash). Reducing the memory to 495 fixed this. I recently reduced the core to 210, when the weather began to get a bit hotter here (and I had experienced a couple of lock-ups). Everything has been fine since then. Idle temperatures are no different to with no over-clocking and temperatures after playing games normally go to about 66/67 (only two or three degrees higher than with no over-clocking). I have experienced 71 on one occasion, but it did not cause any problems. My original thermal pad on the GPU was damaged and so I have replaced it with a piece of copper (with a thin pad on either side) for better heat transfer between the GPU and keyboard heat spreader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tentonine Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Forgot to mention above - no artefacts. I have to take the core over 220 to get them. However, 3DMark 2003 does not complete over 214. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSudlow Posted September 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 The digital vibrance change is by design. Until these recent drivers, game settings were applied on top of whatever desktop settings you had already applied, including gamma, brightness, contrast, color correction, and digital vibrance. For example, if you reduced your gamma on the desktop, you needed to compensate for that reduction in your in-game settings. This was not ideal behavior since DirectX applications should be comletely independent of desktop settings. With the advent of Application Profiles in the early 6x.xx drivers, nVidia has been moving away from dependence on desktop settings, first with brightness, contrast, and gamma. And now with digital vibrance. To change digital vibrance in a game, you need to create or modify an Application Profile for that game that includes your preferred DV settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Larry will you bench this driver... 3rd September 2004 58.21 (v20.51) A Dell driver for the go5200, and now the latest 5x.xx driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSudlow Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Done. You'll find it here. Thanks for the reminder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Larry, I just realized that you do not have the latest official driver from Nvidia (61.77) listed there. You should post those scores if you have them to compare that driver with later betas and releases. I also noticed that there is no 61.60 driver on Pieter's page, does that driver even exist? That is just some stuff I noticed. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSudlow Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Good catch on 61.60... It's supposed to be 61.40. You're the only one who'se noticed! (On my way to repair the table now.) And yes, I probably should go back and take a look at 61.77. I had it installed for a week or so, but never got around to running the benchmarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Previously on nVision Forums: Just got some good benchmarks on my zd7000. FX go5600-128mb, 1 gig ram.Used the 62.20 and inf from here, no overclocking, and followed the Max Speed page. 3dmark 2001 se: 10,020 3dmark 2003: 2,656 MC Just put 65.73 on, ran through the Max Performance guide, and rebenched. 3dmark 2001 se: 9,852 3dmark 2003: 2,580 MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fame Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 can u add me to the performance page? :) 1315 points @ 3dmark03 inspiron 5150 geforce fx5200 go. thx :> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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