Amilo A1667G upgrading from x700 to x1900

[oksehud]

Hi, I am a happy user of an Amilo A1667G , but I have decided to put a little more power under the hood....

Can anyone confirm, that the MXM type III (x1900) card can function in my notebook ???

1) Does it fit on the board?

2) Can the heatsink be reattached without physical alterations (I don't have a Dremel)

3) What problems can I expect with the fan /temperature.

4) Will the board work with latest Omegadrivers ???

If someone could help me with these questions, I would be very grateful

Thx in advance

Oksehud

[Ice-Tea]

Hi, I am a happy user of an Amilo A1667G , but I have decided to put a little more power under the hood....

Can anyone confirm, that the MXM type III (x1900) card can function in my notebook ???

1) Does it fit on the board?

2) Can the heatsink be reattached without physical alterations (I don't have a Dremel)

3) What problems can I expect with the fan /temperature.

4) Will the board work with latest Omegadrivers ???

If someone could help me with these questions, I would be very grateful

Thx in advance

Oksehud

1) tentativel yes, to be checked

2) Probably not, basic mechanical skills required. Dremel can be replaced by a simple drill and a small bit if needed)

3) Fan won't work, fan circuit to be modified. Basic soldering skills required.

4) Yes

Even if it works, it will be hot and your power supply may not be able to cut it.

[oksehud]

Hmmm, thx for the fast reply, Ice-Tea

Do you think I could feel an improvement over my existing x700 board, If I upgraded to the type II 7600 board ???

(Thus avoiding a lot of technical/mechanical issues....)

[Ice-Tea]

Hmmm, thx for the fast reply, Ice-Tea

Do you think I could feel an improvement over my existing x700 board, If I upgraded to the type II 7600 board ???

(Thus avoiding a lot of technical/mechanical issues....)

Check this..

http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/UW259.html

The x700 is comparable to the 6600 but I imagine the difference for you should be better because you only have 128MB, he had 256.

[Guest Guest]

hi

i also own a A1667G.

a few months ago, i upgraded it with a X1800.

had to work on the heatsink with a dremel like shown on this picture:

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grafik1df1.jpg

2 weeks ago i got lucky and got a X1900 @ ebay for 100? (taken from an amilo XI 1554)

(the seller said he couldn't test the card and it might be broke, but it works perfect :) )

i just switched it with the X1800, connected the fan and it works without any problems.

at this moment as i'm writing here and the fan doesn't even run, temperatures are OK.

i did not have to solder anything, only dremel works at the fan.

every ten minutes or so the fan starts for 2 mins or so and then turns back off.

cpu temp is 30°C - 40°C (Turion64 MT-40)

i have to say, you HAVE to get a Turion64 MT (!!!) model before upgrading.

with a athlon64 the temperatures will not be that low...

i can now play games like stalker, bioshock or timeshift very smoothly.

i can just recommend the X1900 !!!

greetings from germany

deac

[oksehud]

hi

i also own a A1667G.

a few months ago, i upgraded it with a X1800.

had to work on the heatsink with a dremel like shown on this picture:

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grafik1df1.jpg

2 weeks ago i got lucky and got a X1900 @ ebay for 100? (taken from an amilo XI 1554)

(the seller said he couldn't test the card and it might be broke, but it works perfect :) )

i just switched it with the X1800, connected the fan and it works without any problems.

at this moment as i'm writing here and the fan doesn't even run, temperatures are OK.

i did not have to solder anything, only dremel works at the fan.

every ten minutes or so the fan starts for 2 mins or so and then turns back off.

cpu temp is 30°C - 40°C (Turion64 MT-40)

i have to say, you HAVE to get a Turion64 MT (!!!) model before upgrading.

with a athlon64 the temperatures will not be that low...

i can now play games like stalker, bioshock or timeshift very smoothly.

i can just recommend the X1900 !!!

greetings from germany

deac

Thx a lot,

I have a Turion 64 MT 37, will now get a x1900, borrow a Dremel and go to work on the heatsink.... :)

[Ice-Tea]

Can you play games with the x1900? Sureley the fan would have to run at very high speed to keep it from overheating?

Have you checked the temp of your powerbrick while gaming?

I would not recommend running tyhat configuration without making sure the fan spins up completely when gaming...

[Guest Guest]

hi again...

i can play games very well. i played through the crysis demo 2 times in a row, for about an hour.

also i played bioshock about 2 hours without any pause.

after gaming my cpu temp was around 55°C - 60°C, never higher than 60°C.

the fan speeds up pretty much.and after playing, it kept running for about 30 more minutes, before turning off again.

so i don't have any thermal problems. i think if the gpu overheats it would shut itsself down, or not? and it never did in my amilo.

i did just check my cpu temprature, the gpu doesn't have a sensor, or at least it can't be read by my board.

one more thing is to say:

i didn't use thermal pads to cool the card down.

instead i used arctic cooling 5 thermal paste in combination with a 0,8mm copper piece (with the paste on both sides)

as there's a little distance between the GPU and the heatsink, which is normally overcome by the thick thermal pad.

i don't know how much of a difference that makes in °C...

maybe i'm just lucky that everything works that fine :)

greetz

deac

[Ice-Tea]

The copper will certainly help. I'm getting new 'super' heatpads, should help as well.

All I can say is I'd want my fan to run at 100%, not 95 with that card.

And I really think you should check the temp of you PSU. Might surprise you :)

Other than that: GG!

[Guest Guest]

hey

i just played kane&lynch in 1280x800 everything max 16xAF 6xAA for one hour.

--> no problems, cpu temp max 59°C, now back to 34°C (after 2min)

fan running fast !

and the PSU, if you mean the same i mean, is ok.

pretty hot, but ok. not hotter than it was when i played games with my old VGA...

how can you measure the exact temp of the PSU ?!

what can be done, if it's really dangerously hot ? (which in my eyes, it is not!)

i mean, i play games since weeks with the X1900 and never had any problems.

so i don't know why i should be worried :)

greetz

deac

[RogueThunderBird]

The copper will certainly help. I'm getting new 'super' heatpads, should help as well.

All I can say is I'd want my fan to run at 100%, not 95 with that card.

And I really think you should check the temp of you PSU. Might surprise you :)

Other than that: GG!

Hes winning out i suspect because of the huge thermal and power demand difference between the Turion and Athalon for that system. Which is atleast a 10w, if not 20+w difference... The turion being around a 25-35w, the Athalon being a 45+w. Them first Athalon 64 mobiles were ATROCIOUS battery life XD

Atleast, Im pretty sure thats right and it. XD... AMDs websites a bit... messy.

Don't try this with the athalon. It would be probobly murder. Or in most other systems XD But it seems to me... with the turion. Its a nifty little boon.

[oksehud]

Hmmm

Now I have purchased an x1800 card through MXM-upgrade, and have followed the exact same procedure regarding modification of the heatsink as above.

I have used the new "super" thermal pads instead of the copperplate mentioned above, but I have a curious problem....

When my laptop runs on battery, there is no problems, but if i connect it to the powerbrick, it shuts down in a few seconds.

The fan is spinning up properly, in the NHC controls, I can see that the CPU has a max temperature of 50 degrees ???

I have downloaded the script, and enabled ACPI as described in the last part of this tutorial:

http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/3438.html

and in the ACPI controls, I have enabled "lüfter stufe 1, 2, vollast" (I guess that's german for "fan level 1, 2, full load "???)

But still, when the power cord is connected, the laptop shuts down in about 10 seconds, regardless of the temperature and fan speed....

Any suggestions ???

[oksehud]

Arghh..

My problems just became worse!

The laptop shuts down 5 seconds after windows starts booting (light blue screen) no matter what. The fan is spinning, and the laptop does not feel hot at all. Windows issues some kind of security warning about not being able to build a temporary profile directory just before shutting down. Booting in failsafe mode gives the same result.

I can't even boot and repair from my windows cd-rom!

To make matters worse, when I put my old x700 card back in, the same problems occur!

Any suggestions?

[Guest felix]

Arghh..

My problems just became worse!

The laptop shuts down 5 seconds after windows starts booting (light blue screen) no matter what. The fan is spinning, and the laptop does not feel hot at all. Windows issues some kind of security warning about not being able to build a temporary profile directory just before shutting down. Booting in failsafe mode gives the same result.

I can't even boot and repair from my windows cd-rom!

To make matters worse, when I put my old x700 card back in, the same problems occur!

Any suggestions?

i had this same problem around a year ago. tried everything including new hd and new memory. this did not worked. what did was a good clean inside from dust. for some reason this worked.

hope this helps

[BobbyakaShaggar]

i had this same problem around a year ago. tried everything including new hd and new memory. this did not worked. what did was a good clean inside from dust. for some reason this worked.

hope this helps

Sorry to hear of your problems mate. I am runing this same spec. I carried out the mod a while back without so much of a hiccup. I simple took the beast apart, modded the heatsink, then plugged it all back together. Installed the latest Omega drivers and everything was up and runing and detected as it should be straight away. I'm running a 4000+ 64 Athlon so when gaming I need a coolerpad but when doing so it outperforms current £1000 systems, well worth it.

So you see it 'does' work. Just make sure everything is clean, plugged in nad fitted together well and hopefully you'll find the glitch.

Best of luck.

Bobby

ps, running 2gb of faster ram doesnt help the heat issue as I know first hand!!!

[oksehud]

Well....

Problem solved now :)

Had to take out the hd, format it through another cpu, reinstall windows, omegadrivers, nhc, acpi scripts, the whole shebang....

- and now everything is running smoothly (and a bit hot), but without any shutdowns of any kind.....

Thanks for the advice, mates....

[Guest macyy]

Hey,

Sorry for my english, i'm form poland :)

I've got amilo A1667EX, it's same as 1667G. I've upgraded him to turion64 ML-32, add him memory up to 2gb and now wanna change my x700.

Maybe someone knows is't possible to replace x700 with gf 8600m gt with MXM II? or maybe x1400?

it's relay hard to get x1800 or x1900 im my country :)

[Guest macyy]

update

i've found ATI Mobility Radeon M74 HD 2400XT, maybe this one?

[Ice-Tea]

Nothing difficult about it :)

Just send me a mail or PM and we'll set you up with the card of your choice.

[Guest macyy]

ok, i did it. Now i've got geforce 8600m gt. ;]

i had to cut a piece of cooler and evryting works fine for now

after one hour of playing in company of heroes temp was ~75'C

[Guest Guest]

ok, i did it. Now i've got geforce 8600m gt. ;]

i had to cut a piece of cooler and evryting works fine for now

after one hour of playing in company of heroes temp was ~75'C

one moment,

u are saying that on amilo A 1667G it is possible to put the ge force 8600M gt :) , are u sure???

please can u tell me where u buy it? because i'm intereseting to upgrade mine.

Please give me some information.

Thank u so much.

[Guest macyy]

on polish ebay, couse i'm from poland but i'm sure you can buy it here on mxm-upgrade.com

[macyy]

i've got a problem.

while i'm playin after 30 min up to 1 hour laptop freez. Temps are about 75-78'C.

Anyone has ideas what can be wrong?

Can it be drivers foult? Right now i'm using vista, bescuse of dx10 with 174.74 drivers but i will install xp. What drivers are best for xp?

Maybe memory is getting too hot... the card has got memory on both side. On the uper side they are cooling by the heatsink, but on the other side they aren't.

[minkle]

Stumbled across this forum while fixing my Amilo A 1667g. I've got Ubuntu installed but the X server was being reported as damaged and couldn't be fixed. i took the thing apart, cleaned it up and it seems to work now and run better and quieter (maybe even cooler, there was a lot of crap inside).

Anyway after reading this thread I guess I can upgrade my x700 to an x1900 but someone recommended upgrading the processor too (to a turion64 ML-32 or similar/better). Does anyone have a link on instructions how to do this? I guess my laptop may be getting a bit flaky so I may as well tinker with it :-)

[Guest Lozdawney]

Hi I have a1667g and have tried to upgrade to 8600m gt. I had to cut a piece of heatsink like is detailed on most forums but once installed it did not work. The card had acer bios which i believe is correct. When it failed i sent it back for replacement assuming it must be faulty but when the replacement arrived it also did not work. My pc works fine with the original x700 (but i had to sell that to raise cash for upgrade) and currently still boots fine, just no image on screen. (hd light flashes etc and i hear windows startup sound) Are there any known issues that prevent some 8600 cards from working in this laptop? Have I been sold 2 dud cards in a row? Is it possible to damage the amilo a1667g in such a way that original card works but others dont? Is there some mod (other than heatsink) That must be done on some of these model pc to enable the upgrade?

My system spec is as follows:

Athlon64 4000+

1.5gb ddr333 hynix brand

80gb hdd (fujitsu)

dvd ram

8600m gt (NOT WORKING for the second time)

So far I have tried flashing diferent sbois's (with the x700 card in each time to see what im doing before I sent it to its new owner) to no avail.

And have tried re-flashing the vbios (blank screen so doing blind) but each time it just gives 2 beeps and does not work. (am using nvflash -4 -5 -6 -A -y switches as detailed on a few other forums)

I am at my wits end and really need help. please please please someone tell me what im doing wrong!

-Loz-