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erp-ster7n
20 hours ago, jvidal said:

what happens if I use an FF04 driver on a regular system, where I usually use FF00 drivers?

just released from MS on 6/3/2020 - v6.0.8934.1 FF01 HDA "generic" X64 on MS Update Catalog (149.4Mb cab download)
WHQL for 64bit Windows from Win7 to Win10

you should be fine, jvidal.  either FF01 or FF04 of 8934 HDA version will work on your computer (there is no FF00 version of 8934 HDA yet)
it's just that the FF04 version benefits mostly Compaq/HP brand PCs as they make use of the Conexant APO files
for FF01, some HP & most Lenovo machines make use of the Fortemedia APO files

otherwise, generic FF01 & FF04 versions function like FF00 on other brand PCs using Realtek audio

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jvidal

Thanks, erp!!

BTW, what exactly determines the use of a specific FF0X version? does it require extra hardware or it just depends on the specific realtek chip on your mobo?

for example, my MSI mobo has a Realtek 889 chip, i've been using FF00 drivers.

I mean, why are the specific APO/cx/fortemedia/whatever features not actived on a regular system?

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erp-ster7n
4 hours ago, jvidal said:

 

BTW, what exactly determines the use of a specific FF0X version? does it require extra hardware or it just depends on the specific realtek chip on your mobo?

for example, my MSI mobo has a Realtek 889 chip, i've been using FF00 drivers.

 

it depends on the hardware device ID number (ah that "hardware ID" info I like to ask people about sometimes which that kind of info is a "goldmine" to me - they can follow the instructions from this site) of your Realtek HD audio device (so yes certain Realtek chipsets with certain hardware IDs may function with other FFxx drivers than just plain FF00 drivers)

what kind of MSI motherboard are you using?

so far 8934 HDA is not available in FF00 version (unless either Realtek sends it to MS to post on MS update or other PC manufacturers beside HP & Lenovo ask for it)

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erp-ster7n
On 5/15/2020 at 12:56 AM, lucageo said:

Nothing UAD updated drivers from Lenovo yet !!

 

after so many weeks of searching lucageo, I finally found a few other UAD driver versions that ARE fully compatible with your S340-15API (and have all the required INF files that support HWID "HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0257&SUBSYS_17AA381E" - no more partial support from other UAD drivers)

v6.0.8791.1 (listed for an S540-13API but should work on an S340-15API)  [released 5/26/2020]
v6.0.8865.1 {I actually found this thru the DriverIdentifier site}

no Lenovo based Realtek UAD driver versions in the 8900s are available for S340/S540 models though

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edit 6/6 - Dell has published security advisory DSA-2020-131 about the Realtek HD Audio driver security vulnerability around the end of May 2020
updated Realtek HDA drivers for affected Dell computers that fix the vulnerability are either 6.0.8895.1 or 6.0.8934.1 (or higher).

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jvidal
On 6/3/2020 at 7:59 PM, erp-ster7n said:

it depends on the hardware device ID number (ah that "hardware ID" info I like to ask people about sometimes which that kind of info is a "goldmine" to me - they can follow the instructions from this site) of your Realtek HD audio device (so yes certain Realtek chipsets with certain hardware IDs may function with other FFxx drivers than just plain FF00 drivers)

what kind of MSI motherboard are you using?

so far 8934 HDA is not available in FF00 version (unless either Realtek sends it to MS to post on MS update or other PC manufacturers beside HP & Lenovo ask for it)

it's a MS-7596 (760GM-E51 FX), kinda old, AM3+ (currently running an FX-8320E oc to 3.500).

Realtek 889 chip hw id:

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_14627596&REV_1000


I hope that satisfies your curiosisty 🙂

 

Edit: the reason I'm interested is because I build and repair pc/notebooks, so a lot of the time I find myself doing clean re-installs of windows, so there's no way to know which version of the driver I need. Also, i can not tell if I need regular or UAD drivers...

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erp-ster7n
On 6/7/2020 at 11:57 AM, jvidal said:

Edit: the reason I'm interested is because I build and repair pc/notebooks, so a lot of the time I find myself doing clean re-installs of windows, so there's no way to know which version of the driver I need. Also, i can not tell if I need regular or UAD drivers...

 

UAD/DCH drivers are best suited on desktop/laptop PCs using at least Intel Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake (7th gen/8th gen Intel core) or newer CPUs OR AMD Ryzen or newer AMD CPUs
UAD drivers not supported on Intel Skylake (6th gen Intel core or older) & AMD FX (and older) based PCs using Realtek audio - for such machines, stick to using HDA FFxx drivers.

note - no specific INF file for HWID "HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_14627596" so you must use a "generic" HDA FFxx driver (any kind from FF00 to FF0C) that includes the HDXRT.inf file

only HDA FFxx drivers will continue to include the generic HDART.inf & HDXRT.inf files that allow installing the driver onto virtually any Realtek audio chipset
UAD drivers no longer include the generic HDXRT.inf file from 8905 & greater (only 8904 UAD is the last one to have it)

 

Edit 6/9-

 

On 6/7/2020 at 11:57 AM, jvidal said:

it's a MS-7596 (760GM-E51 FX), kinda old, AM3+ (currently running an FX-8320E oc to 3.500).

Realtek 889 chip hw id:

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_14627596&REV_1000

If your MSI 760GM-E51 FX board is registered at the MSI web site, you can contact MSI directly and let them read this SafeBreach page about the Realtek HD Audio driver security vulnerability so that MSI can get newer Realtek HDA drivers since MSI still has the v6.0.8703.1 HDA FF00 version from mid-May 2019.

 

 

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jvidal

Oh, let them fix that issue, I always use the latest drivers and ignore the ones form the manufacturer's page, they're usually at least one year old.

 

I remember once installing an UAD driver on this mobo (windows 10, on another partition) and it worked. didn't note anything special. So, I went back to regular HDA FF00 drivers.

 

The main issue is determining when to use a specific FFxx and or/UAD when you have a blank PC (new HD, fried HD, etc), and it requires a fresh/clean install of windows. And since I find myself installing windows very often, I would wanna have some way to determine which one I need , not just guesswork...

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erp-ster7n
18 hours ago, jvidal said:

The main issue is determining when to use a specific FFxx and or/UAD when you have a blank PC (new HD, fried HD, etc), and it requires a fresh/clean install of windows. And since I find myself installing windows very often, I would wanna have some way to determine which one I need , not just guesswork...

that all depends on the hardware tech specs for the laptops & motherboards (run tools such as MSInfo32.exe, HWInfo or Speccy to gather specs, especially the CPU, the system chipset & motherboard model)

as I said before -

-use Realtek UAD drivers for Realtek audio devices on Intel Kaby Lake (7th gen Intel core), AMD Ryzen or newer CPUs [aka. Intel Coffee Lake - 8th gen or higher]
-use Realtek HDA FFxx (non-UAD, non-DCH) drivers for Realtek audio devices on Intel Sky Lake (6th gen Intel core), AMD pre-Ryzen or earlier CPUs [aka. Intel Broadwell - 5th gen or older]

there is no "perfect" or "ideal" way to determine which FFxx or UAD Realtek audio driver to use - it all depends on what hardware (esp. CPUs) is used.  so you need to check what kind of CPU(s) a motherboard or laptop can use and what "chipset" it uses

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moving on

v6.0.8960.1 UAD A02 driver from Dell [for Dell Precision 7550 & 7750 laptops] (posted 6/9/2020)
note - these Dell specific laptop models come with 10th gen Intel Core CPUs (either "Ice Lake" or "Comet Lake") because I check their "tech specs" from Dell's web site

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jvidal

thanks for the tips!

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erp-ster7n

Realtek HD Audio Driver v6.0.8955.1 (UAD) from HP & MSI

8955 UAD from Hewlett-Packard (sp104186 - HTTP link, FTP link) [release notes] (posted 6/12/2020)

8955 UAD from Microstar International (MSI) > UAD RTK, UAD Nahimic (posted 6/11/2020)

also

Realtek HD Audio Driver v6.0.8943.1 (HDA) FF04 32bit/64bit from HP (sp103864 - HTTP link, FTP link) [release notes] (posted 6/11/2020)
-for HP/Compaq PCs only, non-generic

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Realtek HD Audio Driver 6.0.8967.1 WHQL

8967_FF03

Win 7,10 x32/64
PackageVersion = PG475
DriverVer =06/09/2020, 6.0.8967.1

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erp-ster7n
On 6/18/2020 at 10:31 AM, jvidal said:

generic?

YES, jvidal - 8967 FF03 HDA is generic (both 32bit & 64bit) - Nahimic support team recently got it from Realtek in order to support their Nahimic 2.x app

if this guy can install the 8967 FF03 HDA driver, so can you and I  😃

edit - just installed 8967 FF03 on my HP desktop PC and on my dad's Toshiba laptop moments ago - both running Win10
it's been several months since a new FF03 HDA driver became available; previous generic FF03 HDA was 8816

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Edit 6/22 - a little late on this but

v6.0.8959.1 UAD MSI Nahimic "beta" driver - [download here]

 

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erp-ster7n

v6.0.8955.1 UAD from Dynabook (formerly Toshiba)

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erp-ster7n

Realtek HD Audio Driver (HDA) 6.0.8934.1 A17 from Dell (for Dell Inspiron 7472/7572  & Latitude 3490/3590 laptop PCs) [non-generic FF06] (posted 7/07/2020)
-includes HDAMA7.inf, HDXMA7.inf, HDXSSMA7.inf files + Intel HDA SST bus driver + Waves Maxxaudio application software

edit - this version may work with a Dell XPS 15 9560 laptop

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erp-ster7n

Realtek HD Audio Driver (UAD) 6.0.8971.1 A03 from Dell (for Dell Latitude 3410/3510 laptop PCs) (posted 7/13/2020)

and v6.0.8960.1 UAD "All OEM" non-generic from MS Update (posted 7/11/2020):
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=6.0.8960.1

 

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erp-ster7n

v6.0.8963.1 UAD Lenovo from Lenovo (posted 7/22/2020) [for Lenovo V14-IIL & V15-IIL laptop PCs]

v6.0.8960.1 UAD Asus from ASUS (posted 7/20/2020) [for Asus Pro WS X570-ACE & maybe other X570 motherboards] (includes 8960 UAD Asus driver + Realtek Audio Console 1.14.221.0 uwp app)

edit 7/24

v6.0.8971.1 UAD HP from Hewlett-Packard (sp105905) [posted 7/24/2020]

v6.0.8963.1 UAD HP from Hewlett-Packard (sp105750) (sp105839) [posted 7/22/2020]

edit 7/27

v6.0.8971.1 UAD Asus from ASUS (includes 8971 uad driver & Realtek audio console 1.14.211.0 app)

v6.0.8971.1 UAD from MS Update (posted 7/25/2020)
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=6.0.8971.1

 

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KaoDome

I have an ALC255 in an Acer laptop, its hardware IDs are these (IntelSST I believe):

INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345&REV_1000
INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345


And compatibles:
 

INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&REV_1000
INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255
INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC
INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01

 

Which drivers would be for me? I think the generic ones because I see no DSP apps installed with the system, I just have the Realtek Console. By the way, are DSPs like Dolby, DTS, Waves, etc. just software things or do they require hardware support, as in there are dedicated chips from them in there too?

Thank you dearly and best regards.

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On 7/25/2020 at 2:03 PM, KaoDome said:

I have an ALC255 in an Acer laptop, its hardware IDs are these (IntelSST I believe):


INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345&REV_1000
INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345

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Which drivers would be for me? I think the generic ones because I see no DSP apps installed with the system, I just have the Realtek Console. By the way, are DSPs like Dolby, DTS, Waves, etc. just software things or do they require hardware support, as in there are dedicated chips from them in there too?

Thank you dearly and best regards.

 

there are no "official" generic UAD drivers if you use the Realtek Audio Console app from the MS store.  Acer based Realtek UAD drivers have specific Acer based INF files.
HDA (non-UAD) FFxx drivers can be generic (meaning the drivers include the "generic" HDXRT.inf & HDXSST.inf files) but do not come with Realtek Audio Console and come with Realtek HD Audio Manager instead.

what is the model # of your Acer laptop, KaoDome?  use either HWInfo or Speccy to gather specs of your Acer laptop pc so I can determine what kind of Realtek audio driver (most likely a UAD version and not an HDA FFxx version) it needs.

btw, HWID "INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345" is listed in the HDXSSTACERNB.inf file of a UAD/DCH driver.

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KaoDome
Just now, erp-ster7n said:

 

What is the model # of your Acer laptop, KaoDome? [...] So I can determine what kind of Realtek audio driver (most likely a UAD version and not an HDA FFxx version) it needs.

btw, HWID "INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345" is listed in the HDXSSTACERNB.inf file of a UAD/DCH driver.

It is an Acer A515-54G, the current audio driver I'm using is the one provided by Acer (v6.0.8699.1), I think it is UAD because I have that Realtek Audio Console, but no other DSP appears to be installed. I was wondering if there was something newer that could fix a problem I'm having with latency (it takes a while for sound to appear once it's been a while since anything played).

HWiNFO-Audio.thumb.png.0721e2e8c0edc57730d4e37450d3e7ee.png

 

 

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I'm not sure if these UAD Acer drivers will solve your latency problems but here are the newer drivers from Acer that include the HDXSSTACERNB.inf file for ID "INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0255&SUBSYS_10251345":

v6.0.8931.1 (listed for EN714-51W)

v6.0.8904.1 (listed for A715-75G)

uninstall the 8699 UAD driver either from Add/Remove Programs control panel (appwiz.cpl) or by using DriverStore Explorer (RAPR), removing all Realtek "extensions"  and "software components" as well as the main Realtek audio driver from the HDXSSTACERNB.inf file, reboot and then install either 8904 or 8931 and reboot again.

If the updated drivers work, keep them.  If they don't solve your problem, mention the problem in the Acer community forums and see if somebody there will help out.

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