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Guest Malaclypse

Hello All,

Kane- Thanks for the work around! I had been suffering from Vista Media Center ("VMC") 'freezing' on me (that is, the graphics would freeze, but the app would run in the background) especially in fullscreen.

I just reformatted clean, and tried your fix, and so far it works great fullscreen - but whenever I try to play a video I get a popup error in the bottom right hand corner that (paraphrase) 'some of the components required to play video are not available.... please restart media center or reboot' (of course, either does nothing). I installed the vista codec package with no luck - even the sample VMC videos do not play. I can play media outside of VMC in MP11 - although i have only briefly tested it and it seemed a bit jerky. Strange other behavior: music files are not updating (15 artists out of a lot appear in the library, then nothing...), running the DVD "Gallery" regedit does not cause the DVD Library to appear (there is just nothing there now...) and also strange: in tasks>settings, there is no option for configuring my monitor (have an hdtv plugged in over the vga out, displays fine tho).

Any thoughts? especially for the video error? Thanks!!

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kane81

sorry I have not had that error message at all when playing video.... and I have done a ton of clean installs of vista.

Have you tried Vista SP1? maybe the build of vista you have has issues?

Have you open the laptop up and cleaned out the dust from the heat sink?

if your laptop frezzes a lot or fan is on a lot, then you might have dust build up inside.

Let use know how you go.

I generally install the nvidia purevideo codec for dvd playback and divx pack. (I dont think codec is your problem though...)

Cheers

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Guest Bb

Hey Larry thanks for the good work. Just quick question... Ive been using 169.21 with your modded inf. Is 169.47 better then that with 3d??? Is it worth it to change? Thanks.

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LSudlow

Yes, 169.47 gives a small but welcome 3D speed bump - at least in Oblivion. It's also got some bug fixes over 169.21, so I'd give it a try. I'm pretty happy with it so far.

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Guest Malaclypse

So I figured this out...

I am an idiot basically.

But for those who may have similar issues, if your running a 5200 32MB - VMC does not like you...

Basically the story is:

XP Drivers on the 32MB 5200 will run VMC but all video functionality is disabled. Music works fine. Videos will play fine in WMP11

Vista Drivers on the 32MB 5200 will run VMC with video functionality, but it will be unstable, and stop "refreshing" (app runs in background). Everything works fine in WMP11.

So now its time to see if I can snap up an old 5200 64MB if I want to once again extend the life of this 5150 (I am amazed that it has lasted this long!)

Thanks again so much to Larry and Kane!!

Cheers all.

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LSudlow

Thanks for reporting the 32MB limitation - I wasn't aware of it.

Good luck with the 64MB card. I think I've seen them on ebay. You can also try Dell Spare parts:

GeForce FX Go5200 64mb video board part number - M1325

Dell Spare Parts USA - 1-800-449-3355 ext 69937

Dell Spare Parts Canada - 1-866-440-3355

Outside of the United States - Contact Dell in your global area.

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Guest Bb

Larry I tried the 169.47 drivers and it wont save my anisotrophic filtering setting for off. Any ideas? Thanks

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LSudlow

Can you tell when it reverts back? (I assume it's reverting to the App Controlled settng?) I've just tried it here and it seems to survive a reboot okay, but I haven't checked it after launching a game.

There are three things I can think of that might cause this:

- a saved profile with conflicting Anisotropic settings, which may be loading when you reboot.

- a tweaker like RivaTuner that may be overriding your control panel settings.

- failure to load the Nvidia Diaplay Driver Service, which is how settings are saved and restored. Many people disable this to gain some performance, but you give up the ability to save your settings.

If it's none of those, try to track it and figure out when it's resetting. That will give us a place to start looking.

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Guest Bb

Well, I use Nvhardpage as my tweaker and when I go onto the settings there for Anisotrophic filtering I notice it says Auto when on the last driver it said diasabled. It says off in the Nvidia control panel but when I play CIV IV I noticed a terrible lag going on and the graphics looked better then before so thats how I figured it wasnt saving the setting.

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Guest Bb

Larry,

First I want to say thanks for the work you do and for trying to help me with this. I decided to uninstall the driver and reinstall the one I had previously, however, after installing back to the previous one I went to set my resolution settings and it gave some funky numbers, like 305465 x 450354 :) Then I restarted the computer to see if that would help and my problems got worse when it came back with like 4 bit color and really low resolution. There was also no more Nvidia Control panel. What have I done?? Do I need a driver cleaner? Thanks again.

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LSudlow

Yes, this can happen when you get files from incompatible driver versions loading at the same time.

You shouln't need a driver cleaner. Go into the Windows Control Panel and see if the Nvidia Driver listing is still there. If so, you can

uninstall it there. If not, see if you can uninstall it in the Device Manager. Also temporarily uninstall NvHardPage, just to remove any potential conflicts.

In your reinstallation, make sure you have the right inf in the driver folder, and give 169.47 another try. It's a very good driver that should do everything you need. But if it really is conflicting with something, go back to the basics. Try 67.66 and make sure that works, then try 84.98.

if those work, let's see what's going wrong with the 100-series drivers. It's possible that my inf conflicts with NvHardPage.

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Guest Bb

Thanks. Well, I got 169.47 working stable but I still notice a loss in performance in CIV IV. So, I went to control panel uninstalled 169.47 and went back to the previous one. But, I still had the same problem in CIV IV, choppy performance. I just dont understand why it ran so good before and now even with the drivers I had previous it still runs like that? I also deleted Nvhardpage. I tried running my antivirus, adware, and defraged the hard drive just in case. I may just bite the bullet here and reinstall windows XP. Haven't done it ever on this machine and I have the recovery disk that came with it. I figure clean install of the OS and then I'll use the latest driver. It might make things zippier at least.

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LSudlow

Maybe one of your game settings has changed and is causing your choppiness. If you do find a driver that helps, let me know. I'm always on the lookout for new tweaks and features.

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halo_djk

Where do I get a copy of the 169.47 driver from. I searched for it on the Nviia site, found a Quatto or something driver 169.47 driver, added the inf, but everytime i try to install the driver it goes looking for "oemdspif.dll" and cannot find it, so I have to cancel the install. If searched this thread, and cant find a dowload link, or instructions on how to use these new series drivers. The last of Larry's infs i used was 67.XX from memory!

Help!

UPDATE:

Tried the 174.74 driver with the 174.60 inf as I cannot find a copy of the 174.60 driver on the nvidia site, but it also spat up the same error!

UPDATE:

Worked it out, needs to downloaded froim this site, Not the nvidia site. Strangly, when i first installed the INFs years back, i did get them from this site too.

Ill leave this here for amy other dummies like me!

Edited by halo_djk

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LSudlow

Oemdspif.dll allows the driver to talk to OEM hardware (like our 5150 and 5160 laptops) directly. Nvidia must think it's not needed for the general release download.

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halo_djk

Got everything installed, but cant get the custom resolutions to work for tv out. I have added 720x480 because it the widescreen resolution our plasmas use, and ticked the box, but the only two resoulutions it will give me on the TV out it 800x600 and 1024x768. these are both 3:4 (square) screen res's, not 16:9, which is what we need.

In the 84 driver i was using i noticed that i had to set up a custon res of 720x480 (not 720x576 PAL like i needed) as if i selected a custom res of 720x576, the tv out would do it, but the laptop monitor would go some weird non native res as well. However if i used 720x480 (the NTSC 16:9 resolution) the laptop screen would stay the correct native res (1400x1050 i think it is)

Could this be a issue with the new driver too, locking out the lower resoulution for the TV out?

I could really do with watching DVDs ect not stretched on the plasmas. :)

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Guest Kane81

are you doing via VGA out or SVideo out? SVideo you will not be able to output widescreen. you need to do VGA out to do widescreen.

here's what has worked for me, try a re-install of the same driver without uninstalling and reboot.

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LSudlow

Halo_DJK, copy and paste all of the following over my NV-Modes line and reinstall. Please let me know if it helps:

;Resolution table

HKR,, NV_Modes, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 320x200 320x240 400x300 480x360 512x384 640x350 640x400 640x480 720x400 720x480 720x576 768x576 852x480 853x480 854x480 864x480=1FFF;"

HKR,, NV_Modes, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "SHV 800x600 1024x640 1024x768 1152x864 1176x664 1280x720 1280x768 1280x800 1280x854 1280x960 1280x1024 1360x768 1365x768 1366x768 1400x1050 1440x900 1600x900 1600x1000 1600x1024 1600x1200 1680x1050 1768x992 1800x1440 1920x1080 1920x1200 1920x1440 2048x1280 2048x1536 2560x1600 3840x2400x8,16,32,64=1F;"

;HDTVModes_AddReg

HKR,, DisableHDTVRes, %REG_DWORD%, 0

HKR,, NV_HDTVModes, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 720x480 1280x720=1;720x480 1920x1080=C03C;720x576 1280x720=8032;720x576 1920x1080=C032;1176x664=1;1176x664=8032;1768x992=C032;1768x992=C03C;"

HKR,, NV_HDTVModesFRR, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 720x480 1280x720=1;720x480=C03C;1176x664 1768x992=1;1768x992=C032;1768x992=C03C;"

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Guest CBChapman

Larry,

I'm trying to play Sim City Societies and it's running very slowly, with a big delay in movement. I have used your drivers before, but I installed a new HD recently and have not gone back to using any of your drivers since. I have the GE Force FX5200 64MB Video Card, on a Inspiron 5150 Pentium 4 3.06 GHZ Mobile and a little over 1 Gb of RAM. What would be your recommendation for the best driver / settings to run this game?

Thanks

Brian

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halo_djk

I'm using the S-video or "TV" out, but the 84.xx driver did it quite happily.

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Guest CBChapman
Larry,

I'm trying to play Sim City Societies and it's running very slowly, with a big delay in movement. I have used your drivers before, but I installed a new HD recently and have not gone back to using any of your drivers since. I have the GE Force FX5200 64MB Video Card, on a Inspiron 5150 Pentium 4 3.06 GHZ Mobile and a little over 1 Gb of RAM. What would be your recommendation for the best driver / settings to run this game?

Thanks

Brian

****Windows XP - OS*****

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halo_djk
Halo_DJK, copy and paste all of the following over my NV-Modes line and reinstall. Please let me know if it helps:

;Resolution table

HKR,, NV_Modes, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 320x200 320x240 400x300 480x360 512x384 640x350 640x400 640x480 720x400 720x480 720x576 768x576 852x480 853x480 854x480 864x480=1FFF;"

HKR,, NV_Modes, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "SHV 800x600 1024x640 1024x768 1152x864 1176x664 1280x720 1280x768 1280x800 1280x854 1280x960 1280x1024 1360x768 1365x768 1366x768 1400x1050 1440x900 1600x900 1600x1000 1600x1024 1600x1200 1680x1050 1768x992 1800x1440 1920x1080 1920x1200 1920x1440 2048x1280 2048x1536 2560x1600 3840x2400x8,16,32,64=1F;"

;HDTVModes_AddReg

HKR,, DisableHDTVRes, %REG_DWORD%, 0

HKR,, NV_HDTVModes, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 720x480 1280x720=1;720x480 1920x1080=C03C;720x576 1280x720=8032;720x576 1920x1080=C032;1176x664=1;1176x664=8032;1768x992=C032;1768x992=C03C;"

HKR,, NV_HDTVModesFRR, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 720x480 1280x720=1;720x480=C03C;1176x664 1768x992=1;1768x992=C032;1768x992=C03C;"

Thanks Larry, It seems to have added 1024 by 640 in the middle, that want there before, but still nothing below 800x600, leaving just 1024x768 as the third option.

Even tried dropping the laptop screen right down to 800x600, but mad no difference to the TV out settings, it only seems to want to show 3 options.

Problem with running the TV out at such a high res is that it chews up CPU power as I'm DJing of this laptop, and a lot of the effects are added by the main processor before being rendered by the video card. as the TVs only run 720x576 anything higher is a waste of CPU power to render.

Willing to try anything you can throw at me to sort this out.

Thanks Again.

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LSudlow

Halo_djk, I saw that both 720x480 and 720x576 were on the list and hoped it would work. The only other thing I can think of is to make your external screen the primary display and see if that will enable the resolution you need. (I'd even try setting it as your only display and see if that helps. Remember you can always use Fn+F8 to revert back to your LCD if it doesn't work.)

CBChapman, I'm currently having good luck with 169.47, using my custom inf. I'd try that first since it provides much better game support than past drivers. One thing to check with any driver is that you're running in single-display mode. Running a game in clone mode or DualView will kill performance. And in new drivers like 169.47, you also need to check the 3D settings. There's a Single Diaplay Performance Mode setting there that you definitely should use.

If you still aren't getting your old performance, you might have to drop back to an earlier driver. 84.98 would be my first choice, again because it provides support for a wider range of games. And if you absolutely need every last drop of perforamce, there's never been a faster driver for the Go5200 than 67.66. I have infs for all these drivers at the bottom of the first post in this thread.

Let me know what you end up with - it's always good to know what works for everyone.

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kane81
I'm using the S-video or "TV" out, but the 84.xx driver did it quite happily.

hmm, okie, sorry I thought it was limited to 4:3 res, but obviosly not if you had it before.

why arent you doing a straight VGA out instead of S-Video ... the quality is 400% better!

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