LSudlow Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 We have a talent-contest TV show in the U.S. called "American Idol" with a particularly acidic judge named Simon. Of 60.60, he would likely observe, "You can't sing. You can't dance. Why are you here??" Driver..........3DMark01..............3DMark03 53.03............6963.....................1335 53.04............6965.....................1332 53.06............6976.....................1333 53.30............6940.....................1335 53.81............6943.....................1337 54.01............6833.....................1307 56.55............6744.....................1306 56.56............6731.....................1304 56.64............6661.....................1277 56.72............6822.....................1308 56.82............6591.....................1271 60.60............6536.....................1190 60.72............6826.....................1253 NOTE: I use a home-grown inf. Pieter's version may perform quite differently. Machine: Dell Inspirion 5150 BIOS: A33 CPU: 3.06 GHz Pentium 4M (Non HyperThreading) RAM: 512MB GPU: Nvidia FX Go5200 w/ 64MB RAM OS: XP Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aye29 Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 I agree. I'm using Pieter's inf and I'm got my lowest scores yet. I noticed that there was a lot of stuttering duing the test. The screen would freeze for a split second then resume. Really painful to watch :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilenvidia Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Is 60.60 running any cooler than 56.72? Some have noticed that 56.63 (mobile driver) is running about 10deg cooler than non Mobile drivers. Just a thought for those with tempurature tabs. Pieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aye29 Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 I didn't notice 60.60 running at any lower temperature. Just a question: How can drivers cause hardware to run at lower temperatures. Using different drivers desen't change the clock frequecies that the card runs at so how can the temps be different between a mobile driver and a non-mobile driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofelas Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 aye29 - in theory that makes sense; however, i noticed ~10c drop in GPU temp as reported by FanGui with the 56.63 drivers over ANY other driver version. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 how can the temps be different between a mobile driver and a non-mobile driver? The difference between a "mobile" and "non-mobile" aka desktop driver is: the INF(s) itself (given to us with the driver by OEM or NV). The rest of the files of one driver version is identical. So there is no real difference, beside the INF, which controls GPU settings. If the temp. is lower in one driver version say 56.63 compared to say 60.72 then it is controlled not by INF, but internally in .sys or .dll files and you can imagine that you can't change say temp settings of these files, unless you are a programmer or sth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falqon Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 but internally in .sys or .dll files and you can imagine that you can't change say temp settings of these files, unless you are a programmer or sth. I thought Nvidia actually encrypted that part of it. Thus you can't go in and see things like optimizations for 3dmark and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilenvidia Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 I thought Nvidia actually encrypted that part of it. Thus you can't go in and see things like optimizations for 3dmark and such. Is this is what is in data1.cab and data2.cab ? In data1.cab for 60.72 its 1.6MB in 60.60 it's 0.55MB. data2.cab is 512bytes for both drivers. What is in these 2 cab files ? Pieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 The .CAB files only exist when a setup.exe (InstallShield Setup Launcher) exists, means it is needed for the Setup Routine. The possibility that the .CAB files have temp setting included is 0%... but who knows. The cab files can't be opened for some reason with a cab viewer (TotalCommander or XP). Normally you can open all cab files like zip, cuz they just cab-archived files inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilenvidia Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 The data1.cab can vary hugely in size between drivers. What could the setup prog need the extra 1.1MB for in certain drivers ? I wonder if when installing using setup the data1.cab is opened up into a Temp directory? Or does it contain the wizard for doing the installation in the first place ? So many questions, Pieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 don't know. Or does it contain the wizard for doing the installation in the first place ? But this one sounds possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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