tbug Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.t...67&ccid=1291021 F25-AV205 Intel® Pentium® M Processor 750 (1.86GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB) Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 1024MB DDR2 533MHz SDRAM (512MBx2) 15.4" Diagonal Wide-screen XGA display w/TruBrite Technology (1280 x 800) NVIDIA GeForce? FX Go6600 GPU w/64MB DDR SDRAM <<<< THIS IS WHAT I QUESTION 100GB HDD (5400 rpm) 8x DVD Super-Multi Drive (Double Layer) Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200BG (802.11b/g) No Bluetooth® (Antenna only) I have a question about this laptop.This has a graphic card of 64mb NVidia DDR SDRAM VRAM. Does the VRAM mean that this graphic card is NOT intergrated and can be upgraded? This laptop is perfect for what I am looking for except that Graphic card makes me worried. I wanted 128 or even better 256 NVidia Go 6800 but i havent seen the DDR SDRAM VRAM added to the title. Does this mean it runs seperate on its own ram and does that give it more power even though it is just 64MG and the 6600 version? Can it be upgraded? I am needing this for my husbands b-day. He plays alot of Call of Duty, Medal Of Honor, Battlefield army games and so what I want is a good laptop that can handle the gaming graphics. Anyone have any idea? THANKS tbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The 64Mb VRAM would be dedicated video RAM, ie not system RAM. IF the notebook uses the MXM slots (modular GPU), then it is upgradeable, but the best you could put it in is a 128Mb go6600. The 6800/7800 chips require a larger MXM slot and has higher power requirements, so will not suit this notebook. If it doesn't use the MXM slot, it means the GPU is onboard and is not upgradeable in any way, shape or form. If you are after something for gaming, unfortunately you will have to look away from Toshiba (it's not often i say that!) as the go6600 is the most powerful GPU they use at the moment. From a gaming point of view, I find my notebook witha 128mb go6600 adequate for my needs, I can play battlefield 2 @ 1024x768 with med/low setting and it runs ok. However given the native resolution of the above notebook, and the games your husband wishes to play, I couldn't really recommend the go6600, even with 128Mb. It will do it, but only with reduced settings, and future games will be a struggle. I'd advise looking for a notebook with at least a go6800/go7800 installed already, the 7800 would be better obviously. Buying a notebook and upgrading later is very expensive, the going rate for a go7800GTX is US$600-700 plus labour to have it installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbug Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The 64Mb VRAM would be dedicated video RAM, ie not system RAM. So the added listing of the DDR SDRam VRam on that graphic card is basic for all of them? IF the notebook uses the MXM slots (modular GPU), then it is upgradeable, but the best you could put it in is a 128Mb go6600. The 6800/7800 chips require a larger MXM slot and has higher power requirements, so will not suit this notebook. Oh wow lol I have no idea what kind of slot it uses maybe PCI or AGP( same kind of thing?) I dunno LOL It hasnt listed that on any sites I have looked at. How can I find htis out? Does being dedicated to just video even though it is 64MB ugggggg make it better than if it was intergrated? As far as performance goes? If you are after something for gaming, unfortunately you will have to look away from Toshiba (it's not often i say that!) as the go6600 is the most powerful GPU they use at the moment. Any suggestions at all? I was thrilled with the processor... Ram and hArd Drive of the Toshiba for the price Sams CLub has it for and am bummed at the Graphics card. From what I have seen to get at least a 1.86 processor... 1 G DDR2 Ram....and 128 NVidia 6800 I was up into $1800 or higher and my range is $1500 or lower. From a gaming point of view, I find my notebook witha 128mb go6600 adequate for my needs, I can play battlefield 2 @ 1024x768 with med/low setting and it runs ok. However given the native resolution of the above notebook, and the games your husband wishes to play, I couldn't really recommend the go6600, even with 128Mb. It will do it, but only with reduced settings, and future games will be a struggle.I'd advise looking for a notebook with at least a go6800/go7800 installed already, the 7800 would be better obviously. Buying a notebook and upgrading later is very expensive, the going rate for a go7800GTX is US$600-700 plus labour to have it installed. Not to up on the resolutions needs yet lol Im learning.... but furture game ability is definatly a factor on this purchase. I dont want in two years to freeze up and pixel out.... go7800 YAHHHHHH YEHAWWWWWWWW I WISH lol step up to the big money there lol Where can I find the PERFECT laptop with ALL I want for 1500 HAHA Got a clue??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 So the added listing of the DDR SDRam VRam on that graphic card is basic for all of them?Oh wow lol I have no idea what kind of slot it uses maybe PCI or AGP( same kind of thing?) I dunno LOL It hasnt listed that on any sites I have looked at. How can I find htis out? Does being dedicated to just video even though it is 64MB ugggggg make it better than if it was intergrated? As far as performance goes? The card is certainly better than integrated intel graphics, this is because of both the graphics chip and the dedicated RAM. Any suggestions at all? I was thrilled with the processor... Ram and hArd Drive of the Toshiba for the price Sams CLub has it for and am bummed at the Graphics card. From what I have seen to get at least a 1.86 processor... 1 G DDR2 Ram....and 128 NVidia 6800 I was up into $1800 or higher and my range is $1500 or lower.Yeah they aren't cheap unfotunately :) Not to up on the resolutions needs yet lol Im learning.... but furture game ability is definatly a factor on this purchase. I dont want in two years to freeze up and pixel out.... go7800 YAHHHHHH YEHAWWWWWWWW I WISH lol step up to the big money there lol Where can I find the PERFECT laptop with ALL I want for 1500 HAHA Got a clue??? Basically as far as resolutions go, they look best at the native res of the LCD screen. You can drop the res but it can look a little fuzzy at time. No mobile GPU (even the go7800) will be able to hold it's ground in two years time, it will still play the games of today but games in 2 years from now will be so far beyond what current mobile hardware is capable of. Not sure on what else is out there sorry, being in Aus here we get a competely different range of notebooks, with different options available and massively inflated prices :) Obviously you can't have everything for nothing, there will need to be some kind of tradeoff. If you do find what you want for that price, there will be a catch. It might be time to decide on which factors are most important. Basically... it will run his current games just fine... but if he picks up anything new and more demanding he will find that it will struggle a bit. Still playable, but he may need to run at lower quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbug Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 THANKS A BILLION & 1 for taking the time to help me out? Its a pita figuring this out :) and with that kind of money .. I darn well better get it right ROFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I know, I waited months for exactly the right laptop for my last upgrade.. fortunately I didn't have any birthdays I was trying to aim for though :) When spending that much money, you really want to be sure! The Qosmios are a fab machine, so hopefully he enjoys it if you do go down that path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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