Gatfly Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Hello everyone... i have exhausted my own resources on figureing this out and i am not going to call dell regarding it ugh. I really hope a few of you can help me on this issue i been having. Recently had my laptop reconfigured by dell with a Nvidea go 7900 gs, and was wondering if the card that was installed is bad (not running like it should) or a driver problem. I have tried a bunch of drivers and benchmarked them as well...this is my system stats: 3d mark 2005=3450 system configed: Inspiron 9400 intel core duo 1.83 gig 667 mhz fsb 2 gig ddr2 667 mhz mem Nvidea GO 7900 GS (not sure if this matters but this is an A01 JULY 06) 100 gig drive 17" wuxga truelife screen when i compare the 3d mark scores thier half of what they should be i have seen them around 6900 with 3dmark 2005.... I have tried the Drivers on dells site as well as the one on Nvideas site and the Version 84.29 on this site Dont know why this card is sucking so bad... Please Help :) Thank You! Brian Edited October 3, 2006 by Gatfly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Hello everyone... i have exhausted my own resources on figureing this out and i am not going to call dell regarding it ugh. I really hope a few of you can help me on this issue i been having. Recently had my laptop reconfigured by dell with a Nvidea go 7900 gs, and was wondering if the card that was installed is bad (not running like it should) or a driver problem. I have tried a bunch of drivers and benchmarked them as well...this is my system stats: 3d mark 2005=3450 system configed: Inspiron 9400 intel core duo 1.83 gig 667 mhz fsb 2 gig ddr2 667 mhz mem Nvidea GO 7900 GS (not sure if this matters but this is an A01 JULY 06) 100 gig drive 17" wuxga truelife screen when i compare the 3d mark scores thier half of what they should be i have seen them around 6900 with 3dmark 2005.... I have tried the Drivers on dells site as well as the one on Nvideas site and the Version 84.29 on this site Dont know why this card is sucking so bad... Please Help Thank You! Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Roux Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Posting the same question every day doesn't help people helping you... There are a lot of possible causes to this poor performance: - conservative GPU clocks. (read lower than the standard value) - PSU not reporting it's power rating causing downclock. - ... the list goes on. Go to the clock tab and give us the 2D and 3D clocks. And use 8kFanGUI to log the temperatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Posting the same question every day doesn't help people helping you...There are a lot of possible causes to this poor performance: - conservative GPU clocks. (read lower than the standard value) - PSU not reporting it's power rating causing downclock. - ... the list goes on. Go to the clock tab and give us the 2D and 3D clocks. And use 8kFanGUI to log the temperatures. Yea sorry about that i thought i might of posted it in the wrong forum when i saw NVIDIA GPU powered Laptops I thought that is where it should of gone from the beggining where is the clock tab dont remember seeing that on the control panel nvidea properties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggtronic Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 watch the powermizer tab in advanced display properties... probably the AC power shem wich is set to power save , and reduce your GPU clock like Fabrice have mention... you should stay with the original dell driver 8429, and the original VIDEO BIOS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 watch the powermizer tab in advanced display properties...probably the AC power shem wich is set to power save , and reduce your GPU clock like Fabrice have mention... you should stay with the original dell driver 8429, and the original VIDEO BIOS ! What is your Bios Version GG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Posting the same question every day doesn't help people helping you...There are a lot of possible causes to this poor performance: - conservative GPU clocks. (read lower than the standard value) - PSU not reporting it's power rating causing downclock. - ... the list goes on. Go to the clock tab and give us the 2D and 3D clocks. And use 8kFanGUI to log the temperatures. Ok i used video stress test and this are the numbers i got from that prog cpu temp 56 C gpu 200 mhz mem 300 mhz smu 24meg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Roux Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 It's mainly the GPU temp that we need here... :) In the PowerMizer tab check if the Maximum performance is set for the Plugged mode. And that it detect when you unplug the power supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 It's mainly the GPU temp that we need here... :) In the PowerMizer tab check if the Maximum performance is set for the Plugged mode. And that it detect when you unplug the power supply. I just double checked...Maximum performance is set, and when i unplug it stays the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Roux Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I just double checked...Maximum performance is set, and when i unplug it stays the same... Set the powermode for battery as "Maximum savings" and do the same test... it should switch between powermodes when you plug/unplug the PSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggtronic Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 (edited) that's it ! 200 and 300 are way to low... suppose to be 375 and 500 Mhz there must be something not set properly in power shem for your GPU my video bios ? dont know , i didnt touch it yet , original one from DELL Ok i used video stress test and this are the numbers i got from that prog cpu temp 56 C gpu 200 mhz mem 300 mhz smu 24meg you can use RIVATUNER to watch realtime values of your GPU clock... http://www.infos-du-net.com/telecharger/Ri...,0301-1049.html http://www.guru3d.com/ Edited October 5, 2006 by ggtronic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Set the powermode for battery as "Maximum savings" and do the same test... it should switch between powermodes when you plug/unplug the PSU. OK when i set to Maximum savings on both the battery and plug this is what i get.... Gpu 100 Mhz Mem 100 Mhz gpu temp 63 wow this is jacked... :s ok and then when i reset it back to maximum and plug back in it is set Gpu 200 Mem 300 Mhz gpu temp 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Thanks for posting this GG! This is definatley the problem and when i set the power sceme to maximum savings it brings it to 100 cpu and 100 mem! I have rivatuner but i cannot find where the hardware monitoring is located to run it.... dont know how to fix it i know dell is sending me another card to replace this one tho... any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Roux Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Under the BIOS check if the PSU is detected correctly. It should report its power. (likely to be 90W or 130W) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilenvidia Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 It could be the power adaptor, it needs to be at LEAST the 90w one, preferable the 130w or as I have the 150w monster. What size battery do you have the 6cell or 9 cell, the 9 cell is also a better choice to run the machine at full speed (as it's essential for the go7900 GTX upgrade) If there is not enough power the laptop just won't run the video at full speed. Also have you got the latest system BIOS A02 ? I'll have a better idea next week when I get my one with similar specs You should be getting around 6400 in 2k5 and 3500 in 2k6 Have a look here at all sorts of scores : http://www.notebookforums.com/thread157393.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 It could be the power adaptor, it needs to be at LEAST the 90w one, preferable the 130w or as I have the 150w monster.What size battery do you have the 6cell or 9 cell, the 9 cell is also a better choice to run the machine at full speed (as it's essential for the go7900 GTX upgrade) If there is not enough power the laptop just won't run the video at full speed. Also have you got the latest system BIOS A02 ? I'll have a better idea next week when I get my one with similar specs You should be getting around 6400 in 2k5 and 3500 in 2k6 Have a look here at all sorts of scores : http://www.notebookforums.com/thread157393.html Ok i have the 90 Watt adapter, i have A02 for the system Bios, and i have the 9 Cell Battery yea that would be nice to get 6500 i am only getting 3500 and shadows and other things are really bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilenvidia Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 The GPU won't go into fast mode, but why ? Fans working ?, dust in machine ?(compressed air should fix that) Check BIOS is also setup for max performance on AC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatfly Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Under the BIOS check if the PSU is detected correctly. It should report its power. (likely to be 90W or 130W) Yes Fabrice i checked in the bios and it is detected 90Watt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Roux Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Yes Fabrice i checked in the bios and it is detected 90Watt It might be time for live animals sacrifices... start small like with a gerbil, then a chicken... eventually go to virgin sheep. (hard to find) :) One last guess... try to switch the power scheme in the control panel to Desktop PC. (or whatever the non saving profile is named in english) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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