Bill Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Well the title says everything. I just installed the 169.09 driver from here with the mod INF using the straight forward installer method. It correctly installed on both graphics cards and SLI works just fine just like the stock 156.55 drivers that came with my laptop. Unless they have secretly slipped an nvidia chip in this thing I think we have nothing else to worry about when installing newer SLI drivers. Just make sure your cards have different BIOS version numbers. (for identification) Here are mine if anyone wants them. VBIOS 1: 60.84.5b.00.11 VBIOS 2: 60.84.5b.00.b2 I am now able to run Crysis with the highest settings (using the system.cfg tweak to turn them all on in XP) at 720p on our 50" plasma and my 100" homemade projector, and it looks really sweet. (with playable framefrate) The problems people were having must have been INF related or those drivers were just buggy. Since Pieter doesn't have an SLI setup to test we can't blame him for taking a few tries to get it right. So to sum this post up, the whole "Nvidia's anticompetitive conspiracy" thing, I think its BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver1 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 have you run NERD on that laptop? check for any nVidia references I think your being a little 'rushed' on your whole BS thing given the amount of evidence already out there. I mean we didnt pull Driver Development Kits out of thin air. Also, Alienware themselves have confirmed they require the unlocked driver code from nvidia to produce new drivers........ I can garentuee your Clevo DOES have the n100 bridge chip http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...47&Itemid=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver1 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 heres a portion of my NERD output file: Bus 1 (PCI Express), Device Number 0, Device Function 0 Vendor 10DEh Nvidia Corp Device 01B3h Unknown Command 0507h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster, System Errors, Interrupt Disable) Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing) Revision A3h, Header Type 01h, Bus Latency Timer 00h Self test 00h (Self test not supported) Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords) PCI Class Bridge, type PCI to PCI Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4Gb) : F6EFC000h PCI Bridge Information: Primary Bus Number 1, Secondary Bus Number 2, Subordinate Bus Number 4 Secondary Bus Command 001Bh (parity detection, VGA mapping) Secondary Bus Status 0000h Secondary Bus Latency 00h I/O Port Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 0000C000h to 0000DFFFh (32-bit) Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : F6F00000h to FBDFFFFFh Prefetchable Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00000000A0000000h to 00000000DFFFFFFFh New Capabilities List Present: Power Management Capability, Version 1.1 Does not support low power State D1 or D2 Supports PME# signalling from mode(s) D0, D3hot, D3cold PME# signalling is currently disabled Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving) 3.3v AUX Current required : 0mA (Self powered) PCI Express Capability, Version 1 Device/Port Type : Upstream port of PCI Express Switch Device Capabilities : Upstream Port Power Data : Slot Power Limit Value : 0.000 Watts Device Control : Unsupported Request Severity is Non-Fatal Device Status : Non-Fatal Error Detected Unsupported Request Detected Link Capabilities : Maximum Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Maximum Link Width : x16 Link Port Number : 0 Link Control : Common Clock Configuration In Use Link Status : Current Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Current Link Width : x16 there are 3 of these unknowns in my NERD output, this is the n100 SLI bridge chip. It wont shown up in device manager as its a hidden device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Here it is. Even if you can prove that I have the nvidia chip, I still win anyway since it works. :) Note that I ran this while hooked up to the Samsung 50" plasma over HDMI, so the LCD details are not for my laptop's screen. LaptopVideo2Go_LogFile.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver1 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 taken direct from your NERD output Bill: Bus 1 (PCI Express), Device Number 0, Device Function 0 Vendor 10DEh Nvidia Corp Device 01B3h Unknown Command 0407h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster, Interrupt Disable) Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing) Revision A3h, Header Type 01h, Bus Latency Timer 00h Self test 00h (Self test not supported) Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords) PCI Class Bridge, type PCI to PCI Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4Gb) : D0300000h PCI Bridge Information: Primary Bus Number 1, Secondary Bus Number 2, Subordinate Bus Number 4 Secondary Bus Command 000Ch (ISA mapping, VGA mapping) Secondary Bus Status 0000h Secondary Bus Latency 00h I/O Port Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00002000h to 00003FFFh (32-bit) Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : D1000000h to D6FFFFFFh Prefetchable Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00000000B0000000h to 00000000CFFFFFFFh New Capabilities List Present: Power Management Capability, Version 1.1 Does not support low power State D1 or D2 Supports PME# signalling from mode(s) D0, D3hot, D3cold PME# signalling is currently disabled Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving) 3.3v AUX Current required : 0mA (Self powered) PCI Express Capability, Version 1 Device/Port Type : Upstream port of PCI Express Switch Device Capabilities : Upstream Port Power Data : Slot Power Limit Value : 75.000 Watts Device Control : Unsupported Request Severity is Non-Fatal Device Status : Non-Fatal Error Detected Unsupported Request Detected Link Capabilities : Maximum Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Maximum Link Width : x16 Link Port Number : 0 Link Control : Common Clock Configuration In Use Link Status : Current Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Current Link Width : x16 Bus 2 (PCI Express), Device Number 0, Device Function 0 Vendor 10DEh Nvidia Corp Device 01B3h Unknown Command 0407h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster, Interrupt Disable) Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing) Revision A3h, Header Type 01h, Bus Latency Timer 00h Self test 00h (Self test not supported) Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords) PCI Class Bridge, type PCI to PCI PCI Bridge Information: Primary Bus Number 2, Secondary Bus Number 3, Subordinate Bus Number 3 Secondary Bus Command 0004h (ISA mapping) Secondary Bus Status 0000h Secondary Bus Latency 00h I/O Port Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00002000h to 00002FFFh (32-bit) Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : D1000000h to D3FFFFFFh Prefetchable Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00000000B0000000h to 00000000BFFFFFFFh New Capabilities List Present: Power Management Capability, Version 1.1 Does not support low power State D1 or D2 Supports PME# signalling from mode(s) D0, D3hot, D3cold PME# signalling is currently disabled Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving) 3.3v AUX Current required : 0mA (Self powered) PCI Express Capability, Version 1 Device/Port Type : Downstream port of PCI Express Switch Port Type : Port is an Integrated Device Device Control : Unsupported Request Severity is Non-Fatal Device Status : Non-Fatal Error Detected Unsupported Request Detected Link Capabilities : Maximum Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Maximum Link Width : x16 Link Port Number : 0 Link Control : Common Clock Configuration In Use Link Status : Current Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Current Link Width : x16 Bus 2 (PCI Express), Device Number 1, Device Function 0 Vendor 10DEh Nvidia Corp Device 01B3h Unknown Command 0407h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster, Interrupt Disable) Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing) Revision A3h, Header Type 01h, Bus Latency Timer 00h Self test 00h (Self test not supported) Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords) PCI Class Bridge, type PCI to PCI PCI Bridge Information: Primary Bus Number 2, Secondary Bus Number 4, Subordinate Bus Number 4 Secondary Bus Command 000Ch (ISA mapping, VGA mapping) Secondary Bus Status 0000h Secondary Bus Latency 00h I/O Port Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00003000h to 00003FFFh (32-bit) Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : D4000000h to D6FFFFFFh Prefetchable Memory Range Passed to Secondary Bus : 00000000C0000000h to 00000000CFFFFFFFh New Capabilities List Present: Power Management Capability, Version 1.1 Does not support low power State D1 or D2 Supports PME# signalling from mode(s) D0, D3hot, D3cold PME# signalling is currently disabled Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving) 3.3v AUX Current required : 0mA (Self powered) PCI Express Capability, Version 1 Device/Port Type : Downstream port of PCI Express Switch Port Type : Port is an Integrated Device Device Control : Unsupported Request Severity is Non-Fatal Device Status : Non-Fatal Error Detected Unsupported Request Detected Link Capabilities : Maximum Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Maximum Link Width : x16 Link Port Number : 1 Link Control : Common Clock Configuration In Use Link Status : Current Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Current Link Width : x16 Bus 3 (PCI Express), Device Number 0, Device Function 0 Vendor 10DEh Nvidia Corp Device 0409h Unknown Command 0006h (Memory Access, BusMaster) Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing) Revision A1h, Header Type 00h, Bus Latency Timer 00h Self test 00h (Self test not supported) Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords) PCI Class Display, type 3D Subsystem ID 09021558h Unknown Subsystem Vendor 1558h Clevo/Kapok Computer Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4Gb) : D1000000h Address 1 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 64-bit space, Prefetchable) : B0000000h Address 3 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 64-bit space) : D2000000h Address 5 is an I/O Port : 00002000h System IRQ 16, INT# A Expansion ROM of 128Kb decoded by this card (Currently disabled) New Capabilities List Present: Power Management Capability, Version 1.1 Does not support low power State D1 or D2 Does not support PME# signalling Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving) Message Signalled Interrupt Capability MSI is disabled MSI function can generate 64-bit addresses PCI Express Capability, Version 1 Device/Port Type : PCI Express Endpoint Device Device Capabilities : Device Control : Unsupported Request Severity is Fatal Device Status : Link Capabilities : Maximum Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Maximum Link Width : x16 Link Port Number : 0 Link Control : Common Clock Configuration In Use Link Status : Current Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Current Link Width : x16 Bus 4 (PCI Express), Device Number 0, Device Function 0 Vendor 10DEh Nvidia Corp Device 0409h Unknown Command 0007h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster) Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing) Revision A1h, Header Type 00h, Bus Latency Timer 00h Self test 00h (Self test not supported) Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords) PCI Class Display, type VGA Subsystem ID 09021558h Unknown Subsystem Vendor 1558h Clevo/Kapok Computer Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4Gb) : D6000000h Address 1 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 64-bit space, Prefetchable) : C0000000h Address 3 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 64-bit space) : D4000000h Address 5 is an I/O Port : 00003000h System IRQ 17, INT# A Expansion ROM of 128Kb decoded by this card (Currently disabled) New Capabilities List Present: Power Management Capability, Version 1.1 Does not support low power State D1 or D2 Does not support PME# signalling Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving) Message Signalled Interrupt Capability MSI is disabled MSI function can generate 64-bit addresses PCI Express Capability, Version 1 Device/Port Type : PCI Express Endpoint Device Device Capabilities : Device Control : Unsupported Request Severity is Fatal Device Status : Link Capabilities : Maximum Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Maximum Link Width : x16 Link Port Number : 1 Link Control : Common Clock Configuration In Use Link Status : Current Link Speed : 2.5Gb/s Current Link Width : x16 please edit your topic title and thread content and your thread in the priv forum. Given your mod status your post totally undermines almost 4 months of research not justby me but by other people. I have no idea why this 'workaround' posted by Grey works for 'some' people. Its either sloppy coding on nvidia's part or its something to do with specific hardware. I must point out that this method only worked for me once, and i ended up with my performance halved (and SLI was enabled, my 3dmark score went from 8822 to 56xx) the workarounds are NOT consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Actually Grey's method is the proper way to install it. On desktop PCs Nvidia recommends to install one card first, then insert the other card into the system and install it. Since it would be a pain removing laptop cards between reboots Grey's method is our only option. I still don't believe its intentionally anticompetitive stuff though. I bet its just lackluster support for other SLI chips. I want to know why you think yours doesn't work then if you have the same chip I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver1 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 i tried to install between 10-15 different driver versions of XP 32 bit. 3 different ways. 1. normal method - double click the setup.exe and let the install routine do its thing. 2. install each card seperately via device manager 3. double click setup.exe but abort the install process after it installs first card. then install second card via device manager. 1 of 2 things hapenend, either the drivers installed, but i got no SLI option at all in the control panel, or I'd black screen before the installation finished and then black screen on every boot (this second option only seemed to happen on the latest driver versions). mostly they would install without any SLI options, regardless of installation method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey728 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I think there's enough people in the SLi Community with new drivers installed now that's its safe to say it works. Perhaps 5 months ago that wasn't the case, but the drivers have now matured enough that whether or not you have this 'Nv100 chip' should no longer be an issue. Now it's a question of operating system and when will Vista be ready. Woot to LaptopVideo2go for getting the site back up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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