Guest waf Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 (edited) Hi all, I'm new to this but after reading the posts am begining to think I can't fix the problem anyway. I have a Toshiba Satellite 2450 with a geforce 420 go 32 mb. Trying to install and run a new game I get the message "You need a minimum 32mb Vram and a programmable pixel/vertex shader" Is there any way at all around this? drivers, new graphics card etc. Any help appreciated. Edited May 10, 2004 by dontknow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Welcome, waf. The message means you need to update your currently used driver in order to play the game. Refer to the README/minimum requirements of the game and see which driver they suggest. Which game? Which driver version you currently use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waf Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Dontknow, thanks for the quick reply. The game is Silent Hill 3. I have just downloaded the 4712 driver from this site. Still wont work :) What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Refer to the README/minimum requirements of the game and see which driver they suggest. Also keep in mind that when updating the drivers to a 5x.xx version you may be affected from the BlackBar: http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/index....findpost&p=4702 Due to the fact that you have a model which is NOT in our tested "database" (see topic) we need more details about your Laptop model, which means you should run DXDIAG.EXE and post&attach the result here. A signature with current system specs is not only appreciated by me, but also by other (also passive) users who visit & read the forum and have the same Laptop as you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waf Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Thanks, sorry for not supplying enough info, hope this helps. Game requirements 9) Graphics cards SILENT HILL 3 requires a graphics card with 3D hardware acceleration and at least 32 MB of VRAM on the card, along with 256 MB or more of system RAM. The drivers for your graphics card must support DirectX 8.1b or higher. If you are having any problems running the game, make sure to update your graphics card drivers. SILENT HILL 3 officially supports the following graphics chipsets: NVIDIA GeForceFX, GeForce4Ti, GeForce3Ti (GeForce MX series not supported.) ATI Radeon 9800, 9700, 9600, 9500, 9200, 9100, 9000, 8500 Matrox Parhelia ANTI-ALIASING If your card supports anti-aliasing, do not manually select the anti-aliasing mode within your graphics card settings in Windows. For SILENT HILL 3, you will need to keep the default setting, which allows the application to control the anti-aliasing mode. The default setting for anti-aliasing should be listed as "Allow applications to control the anti-aliasing mode," "Application preference," or something similar. If you manually turn on anti-aliasing, it will cause graphical glitches to appear when running the SILENT HILL 3 program. KNOWN ISSUES There are some known issues with the very latest graphics chipsets available. It is likely that most of these known issues will be fixed in future driver releases from the graphic chip manufacturers. We recommend that you keep your graphics card drivers updated, by checking the manufacturer's web site regularly for new drivers. A list of the most common hardware manufacturers' web sites can be found at the end of this document. If you set Rendering Resolution at 2048 x 2048 on ATI Radeon 9200 or below, graphics corruption may occur. Reducing Rendering Resolution to 2048 x 1024 or below will correct this issue. ATI Radeon 9800, 9700, 9600, 9500, 9200, 9100, 9000, 8500 - With the latest drivers available at the time this was written, you may experience some flickering on the new ATI Radeon cards. We expect this to be fixed in new driver releases from ATI, so make sure to update your graphic card drivers regularly. Current system specs: Display Devices --------------- Card name: GeForce4 420 Go Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce4 420 Go DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0175&SUBSYS_00101179&REV_A3 Display Memory: 32.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Default Monitor Monitor Max Res: Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.10.4712 (English) DDI Version: 8 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 12/11/2003 01:08:00, 3405130 bytes Driver Signed: No WHQL Date Stamp: None VDD: Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys Mini VDD Date: 12/11/2003 01:08:00, 1390218 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4235-11CF-A160-1A2002C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x10DE Device ID: 0x0175 SubSys ID: 0x00101179 Revision ID: 0x00A3 Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: D3D7 Test Result: D3D8 Test Result: System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 5/11/2004, 01:58:50 Machine name: SCIU-WFEEL Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp1.020828-1920) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA System Model: Satellite 2450 BIOS: TOSHIB - 970814 Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.40GHz Memory: 512MB RAM Page File: 339MB used, 911MB available Primary File System: n/a DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.1106 32bit Unicode Display Devices --------------- Card name: GeForce4 420 Go Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce4 420 Go DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0175&SUBSYS_00101179&REV_A3 Display Memory: 32.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Default Monitor Monitor Max Res: Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.10.4712 (English) DDI Version: 8 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 12/11/2003 01:08:00, 3405130 bytes Driver Signed: No WHQL Date Stamp: None VDD: Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys Mini VDD Date: 12/11/2003 01:08:00, 1390218 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4235-11CF-A160-1A2002C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x10DE Device ID: 0x0175 SubSys ID: 0x00101179 Revision ID: 0x00A3 Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: D3D7 Test Result: D3D8 Test Result: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 ok, you need to upgrade to DirectX 9.0b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waf Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Hi again, ok now running Directx9b and still no change. I still get the message that I require a card with a minimum 32mb vram and a programmable pixel/vertex shader support? Is there any other sollutions? Thanks Time of this report: 5/11/2004, 04:57:15 Machine name: SCIU-WFEEL Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp1.020828-1920) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA System Model: Satellite 2450 BIOS: v1.30 Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.40GHz Memory: 512MB RAM Page File: 236MB used, 1013MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicode --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: GeForce4 420 Go Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce4 420 Go DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0175&SUBSYS_00101179&REV_A3 Display Memory: 32.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Default Monitor Monitor Max Res: Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4712 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 12/11/2003 01:08:00, 3405130 bytes WHQL Logo'd: No WHQL Date Stamp: None VDD: n/a Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys Mini VDD Date: 12/11/2003 01:08:00, 1390218 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4235-11CF-A160-1A2002C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x10DE Device ID: 0x0175 SubSys ID: 0x00101179 Revision ID: 0x00A3 Revision ID: 0x00A3 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch Registry: OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waf Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Further to my last post, having not been able to resolve this frustrating problem which I believe means that I will not be able to play any of the newer games on my laptop I rang the Toshiba support line for their advice. Their answer was simply keep your drivers updated from their website. I pointed out to them that they have no new drivers for the 2450 so how can I keep them updated? Their answer you will have to use a desktop or upgrade your laptop. Thanks Toshiba laptop is 12 months old and cost 3k I shall just update it then shall I! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 that was the easy part :) now to the more interesting one. As your card doesn have an integrated pixel and vertex shader, all this have to be done through the driver itself. I suggest you upgrade first to 52.16 with an old INF or 20.36 ( http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/index.php?showforum=11 ), and try starting SH again. If the error message still appears, use 56.72 with the newest INF ( http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/index.php?showtopic=573 ) and report back if you have a black bar with that driver here: http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/index.php?showtopic=202 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waf Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Hi again, well now have the latest driver and inf which appear to be working fine with no black bar! Unfortunately SH3 still wont run. Am begining to think its the game! Display Devices --------------- Card name: GeForce4 420 Go Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce4 420 Go DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0175&SUBSYS_00101179&REV_A3 Display Memory: 32.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Default Monitor Monitor Max Res: Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5672 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 3/24/2004 06:04:00, 4274560 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys Mini VDD Date: 3/24/2004 06:04:00, 1895648 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4235-11CF-E164-1A2002C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x10DE Device ID: 0x0175 SubSys ID: 0x00101179 Revision ID: 0x00A3 Revision ID: 0x00A3 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 :) Maybe someone can jump in who played Silent Hill on a 32 MB GF4 420 Go card and report whats goin on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 It's the game.. Like the error message says: "You need a minimum 32mb Vram and a programmable pixel/vertex shader" .. The GeForce4 420 Go does not support programmable pixel/vertex shaders.. so you're out of luck... unless the game developers decide to release a patch to support the GF4 Go/MX cards. Games like Silent Hill 3 and Splinter Cell 2 won't be able to play on the 420 Go's. There is a way to get the shaders to work, using software.. but these games will be unplayable running at 1-4fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
situsina Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 SILENT HILL 3 officially supports the following graphics chipsets: NVIDIA GeForceFX, GeForce4Ti, GeForce3Ti (GeForce MX series not supported.) so geforce4 420go :) :) :( :P :P :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®®® Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Yes, i can confirm this now. I tested SH3 with my GF4 460 Go. It coulkd't load and brings up the mentioned message. GeForce MX series not supportedAs MX is NV17 and 460Go is NV17=no support for 420,440,460 GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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